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		<title>Comment on Argumentative? Moi? by familoo</title>
		<link>http://pinktape.co.uk/rants/argumentative-moi/#comment-14446</link>
		<dc:creator>familoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 21:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find that if I just duck they carry on and lob &#039;em at each other... ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that if I just duck they carry on and lob &#8216;em at each other&#8230; <img src='http://pinktape.co.uk/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Argumentative? Moi? by Northern Lights</title>
		<link>http://pinktape.co.uk/rants/argumentative-moi/#comment-14445</link>
		<dc:creator>Northern Lights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 21:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, Lucy, at times I think you have the patience of a saint. You must be the only legal blogger on the planet who lets people into her own garden to throw stones at her windows.

Fortunately, they are all lousy shots]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Lucy, at times I think you have the patience of a saint. You must be the only legal blogger on the planet who lets people into her own garden to throw stones at her windows.</p>
<p>Fortunately, they are all lousy shots</p>
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		<title>Comment on Argumentative? Moi? by Andrew</title>
		<link>http://pinktape.co.uk/rants/argumentative-moi/#comment-14438</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 17:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The last time I met an unargumentative lawyer he was the star of the show at a funeral. His.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time I met an unargumentative lawyer he was the star of the show at a funeral. His.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Argumentative? Moi? by Law Actually</title>
		<link>http://pinktape.co.uk/rants/argumentative-moi/#comment-14437</link>
		<dc:creator>Law Actually</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good answer.  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good answer.  <img src='http://pinktape.co.uk/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Argumentative? Moi? by familoo</title>
		<link>http://pinktape.co.uk/rants/argumentative-moi/#comment-14435</link>
		<dc:creator>familoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 14:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was said all in good jest and received as such. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was said all in good jest and received as such. <img src='http://pinktape.co.uk/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Argumentative? Moi? by Anthony</title>
		<link>http://pinktape.co.uk/rants/argumentative-moi/#comment-14434</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 08:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well..at least you don&#039;t take yourself too seriously Lucy..and have a good sense of humour.
He probably does...and doesn&#039;t!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well..at least you don&#8217;t take yourself too seriously Lucy..and have a good sense of humour.<br />
He probably does&#8230;and doesn&#8217;t!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Doom and Gloom and very black Coffee by Jim Nately</title>
		<link>http://pinktape.co.uk/public-funding/doom-and-gloom-and-very-black-coffee/#comment-14433</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Nately</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 00:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chambers,

Your proposition appear to be that lawyers who do legal aid family work are protesting about the changes to legal aid because the loss of fee income from legal aid will lead to practices becoming unsustainable and lawyers going out of business. That the principled arguments are just a cover for concerns about money.

My comment addresses why, in the medium term, the assertion that &quot;&lt;i&gt;it turns out the tax payers monies was the only reason they were able to stay in business...&lt;/i&gt;etc&quot; is, in my view, incorrect. As that is your assertion, and my comment provides a number of reasons why your assertion may be refuted, it isn&#039;t a straw-man argument. Perhaps I just haven&#039;t made it clear enough, but I wanted to avoid repeating the same conclusions over and over.

As for the reference to Atkin lecture. I don&#039;t entirely see your argument. Certainly I don&#039;t think anyone would dispute that crime, family and PI are generally the least well regarded practice areas to work in—not least as they don&#039;t pay as well as say, commercial or chancery work. But you may need to spell out what point you are trying to make, because it isn&#039;t immediately evident.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chambers,</p>
<p>Your proposition appear to be that lawyers who do legal aid family work are protesting about the changes to legal aid because the loss of fee income from legal aid will lead to practices becoming unsustainable and lawyers going out of business. That the principled arguments are just a cover for concerns about money.</p>
<p>My comment addresses why, in the medium term, the assertion that &#8220;<i>it turns out the tax payers monies was the only reason they were able to stay in business&#8230;</i>etc&#8221; is, in my view, incorrect. As that is your assertion, and my comment provides a number of reasons why your assertion may be refuted, it isn&#8217;t a straw-man argument. Perhaps I just haven&#8217;t made it clear enough, but I wanted to avoid repeating the same conclusions over and over.</p>
<p>As for the reference to Atkin lecture. I don&#8217;t entirely see your argument. Certainly I don&#8217;t think anyone would dispute that crime, family and PI are generally the least well regarded practice areas to work in—not least as they don&#8217;t pay as well as say, commercial or chancery work. But you may need to spell out what point you are trying to make, because it isn&#8217;t immediately evident.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Doom and Gloom and very black Coffee by Andrew</title>
		<link>http://pinktape.co.uk/public-funding/doom-and-gloom-and-very-black-coffee/#comment-14431</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 22:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And that&#039;s the point, Lucy, the FD was the lower division from which judges were promoted. That gave it the Third Division feel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#8217;s the point, Lucy, the FD was the lower division from which judges were promoted. That gave it the Third Division feel.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Argumentative? Moi? by Pan</title>
		<link>http://pinktape.co.uk/rants/argumentative-moi/#comment-14430</link>
		<dc:creator>Pan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 22:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;constructive engagement...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;constructive engagement&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Doom and Gloom and very black Coffee by Chambers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chambers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 20:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know what you mean.

Hopefully.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what you mean.</p>
<p>Hopefully.</p>
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